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Extreme Makeover: The Fic Edition
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Just a few things to note... 
22nd-Jun-2006 08:23 am
pretty flowers
Good morning!

As everyone should know this is day two of this community and today I'd like us to have a goal of getting at least one nomination within a week. If there are no nominations then this community holds no purpose. So please, if you're already a member and you know of a fic which is a could-have-been that you think really needs a makeover try to take the time to nominate it. (Or if you know of someone who may have a fic they'd nominate, encourage them to join and do so!)

Right now I am no longer taking applications for Technical or General staff. The reason for this is simple: Currently we have nothing to work on and we have quite a bit of capable staff on hand which isn't being used. I understand that everyone wants to help but there are other ways to help than just being in these positions. I noticed that some of our staff have already gone and pimped out the community (YES I CHECKED! LOL) and I'd like to thank those individuals very much!

Also! For those who are already staff and are uncertain as to just what your position entails please don't hesistate to ask me. (You can email me or respond here.)
22nd-Jun-2006 03:25 pm (UTC)
I suppose I could think of a few fics that were "off to a good start" that fell flat and would probably benefit from a makeover, but I'm wondering how the community handles those nominations- is there a particular person that approaches the author, and is the nominator ever mentioned? I'm just curious how the nomination/makeover system works.
22nd-Jun-2006 03:31 pm (UTC)
It's the duty of the moderators to approach the author and request permission to perform the makeover.

I'm not really sure if letting the author know who nominates their fic is a good idea or not. I left the comments unscreened because I want it known that whatever you nominate is final. That way people don't nominate as a joke or something. It's serious business and we're not looking for pranksters.

I would think that if an author has any objections then it would just be left at that and then the nomination will be deleted. Nothing major.

I don't think it's important to mention to the author initially who nominated their fic unless they ask. The mods are just meant to explain the process and ask for permission. If the author agrees then the mod assigns staff to that particular fic. (in which case a new post would be made and the details of the project would be displayed for the community to see... and each staff who was selected to work on that particular fic would know what job they are meant to do and could then proceed to do so.)

Does that sound right?
22nd-Jun-2006 09:44 pm (UTC)
Perhaps we could have a volunteer(s) to skim FF.net and collect multiple candidates? This way, if we get vetoed and/or flamed by some authors, hopefully we'll still have something to work with. I have no problem approaching authors about working on their stuff. (Also, total dibs on responding to flames, cuz I love me some profanity).

I'm just thinking that if multiple fics are suggested at once, it won't matter so much WHO nominated what fic, since it's not so ...personal? Am I making sense?

...I'd start it, but I, uh, I'm at work. XD
22nd-Jun-2006 09:48 pm (UTC)
I like this idea. It could be like an unofficial position... people who are like "gofers" for us. They go to collect fics for nomination.

Although I'd rather they be nominated on the basis that the fan reading the work would like to have the fic done better...

You're right, it isn't personal. This is for the betterment of fanfiction in general. Nothing against the author. We all could use some improvement.
22nd-Jun-2006 09:51 pm (UTC)
Exactly! At least, to get the ball rolling. Hopefully, once things get started and we all get a better idea of what can come out of this comm, we'll get fans/readers who suggest fics as they read them. But it would be a place for everybody involved here to start on things.

'm only an FF-fandom person, but I could probably find some volunteers. (I'm going to be busy over the weekend though, I have a gig; but it would get us started...)
22nd-Jun-2006 09:53 pm (UTC)
Anything that can help!

Thanks for giving such useful input. :D
23rd-Jun-2006 01:10 pm (UTC)
Does it have to be in any specific fandom?
23rd-Jun-2006 01:52 pm (UTC)
23rd-Jun-2006 10:10 pm (UTC)
I wonder.. I found a fic today that made me blanch. It had an interesting premise, but I couldn't stand the way they took a character and made them much more apathetic and anti-social than they really were. I didn't get far into the fic before I stopped.

I couldn't take it when Roxas thought about doing what -I- always wanted to do to Tidus, KH OR FF version.

Real question behind this babble, would it technically be OK to nominate a fic that you feel is OOC? Is there a panel that could actually debate over it? Because Roxas, while I THINK shouldn't be hard to characterize at all, does have two sides, light and dark, and I want some definite agreeing before I nominate the fic.
23rd-Jun-2006 10:11 pm (UTC)
Which, by the way, it was well written, but I just don't think Roxas would be quite as mean spirited as they wrote him.
23rd-Jun-2006 10:19 pm (UTC)
Well.. If you feel that the OOC is so bad but that the fic itself is good and has a reasonable plot that we can salvage then by all means, nominate it.

However, if you think that it's possible that it could just be your personal opinion on the matter and not a fault on the part of the author then it takes some reconsideration. Look at the fic and consider this:

1. Does the author maintain a personality for Roxas throught the fic? Despite your disagreement with their portrayal... is it consistent?

If the answer is yes then likely it is your personal opinion which is clouding your judgement here. Move to question 3.

If the answer is no then likely it is a case where the author is writing Roxas completely OOC, even for their own opinion of him. Move to question 2.

2. Does Roxas act in a way which is completely impossible to consider for his character, maybe even improbable in that particular universe? (such as... behaving one way and then doing a 180 and being another way. being Bi-polar is not a capability of a Nobody. They are not human beings.)

If yes then you should nominate this fic.

If no then move to question 3.

3. Is there anything wrong with the plot of this fic aside from the OOC behavior of Roxas?

If yes then you should nominate this fic.

If no then it's likely just your own opinion and that's okay, too.
23rd-Jun-2006 10:36 pm (UTC)
Well, Axel is a bit OOC, as well. He's turned into this flaming gay OFDHOSHFSJ. And Sora? Sora has been made out to be rather.. immature. I don't know. I thought the idea of a "high school AU" where Roxas is in High School, and Axel, who works at McDonalds, macks on him... I thought it'd be kind of cute.

There ARE a few laughs. I forced myself to keep reading, but I just don't think Sora would be such a drama queen, Axel such a drag queen, and I think Roxas wouldn't be quite so food obsessed. I mean, come on. He's thinking of licking Sora's chin because there's a smudge of grease on it. Ewwww.

23rd-Jun-2006 10:37 pm (UTC)
I also have a problem with vain!Axel. Really, I do.

That's Marluxia's job! Why would a man with Axel's weapon worry about manicuring his nails? o_o
23rd-Jun-2006 10:38 pm (UTC)
So nominate it.

The worst that can happen is the author gets mad and throws a fit. (in which case I'll set up a "Flame us here" post for first_seventhe to play in.)
24th-Jun-2006 04:03 am (UTC)
Alright, I'm nominating it, because I think, despite the OOC-ness, there is tons of funny actually littered throughout at least the first four chapters.

When the author sees this, I say in my defense that I am very much an Akuroku fangirl, and I tend to be really, really sensitive to any change in Axel's personality. >_>

Title: Super Sized!
Author: Katalystic
link: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2964870/1/
Main problem: Characterization.
Fandom: Kingdom Hearts
24th-Jun-2006 04:08 am (UTC)
Well you're supposed to nominate em over in the post for it.. but I'll handle it personally anyway. *smirks* Gotta show people how to do it, I suppose. *prances off to bug author*
24th-Jun-2006 04:09 am (UTC)
I realized that like.. Way too late. XDD I was about to delete the post. Shhh. >_>
24th-Jun-2006 04:22 am (UTC)
It's not really a big deal. hehe..
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